Growing Persimmons

comments (27) April 18th, 2009

Pin It

thumbs up 42 users recommend

Asian persimmons include varieties such as Hachiya (left) and Fuyu (right).
Asian persimmon trees have brilliant fall color, an attractive branch structure, and interesting bark.
Hachiya tastes best when it ripens on the tree. Its custardlike flesh can be eaten with a spoon.
Asian persimmons include varieties such as Hachiya (left) and Fuyu (right).Click To Enlarge

Asian persimmons include varieties such as 'Hachiya' (left) and 'Fuyu' (right).

Photo: Saxon Holt

by Joe Quierolo
December 1999
from issue #24

Two Asian persimmon trees dwell in our garden. Each is well behaved, with lovely leaves, attractive bark, and alluring orange fruit. In late autumn, after the leaves have fallen, you can see the persimmons hanging from the branches like softly glowing ornaments set against the darkening skies. Two trees, one common ancestry, bearing two distinctly different fruits.

One, a ‘Fuyu’, bears squat, yellow-orange, firm fruits that are sweet and flavorful as soon as they color up. You can eat them like apples, right from the tree. Not so the large, acorn-shaped, red-orange fruits of the other tree, a  ‘Hachiya’. They can easily tantalize the novice by looking and feeling soft and ripe, but they taste tongue-numbingly astringent. It took a lot of trial and many mouthfuls of error before I learned that a ripe ‘Hachiya’ must be very, very soft to be palatable. If you wait to harvest them until just before they fall, when the skin color suddenly darkens and loses its sheen, the flesh will have lost its astringency and will be silky and sweet.

Asian persimmons: Hakiya and Fuyu
'Hachiya' and 'Fuyu' typify the two categories of Asian persimmons. The acorn-shaped fruits of 'Hachiya', left, are astringent. The ripest one, near the center, still needs time to become sweet and delicious. The squat fruits of 'Fuyu', right, are good to eat as soon as they turn orange. Both varieties are seedless.
Both trees are now essential to our kit­chen garden. They are easily maintained, forgiving of neglect, and, in addition to adding dramatic brightness to the fall land­scape, they bring fresh fruit to the kitchen long after the last apples have fallen.

‘Hachiya’ and ‘Fuyu’ are the most popular representatives of the two categories of Asian persimmon—astringent and nonastringent. Both are seedless, although there are many varieties with seeds. Asian persimmons, called kaki in much of the world, were brought to the United States about a hundred years ago. They had relatives already living here, the small, American persimmons that grow wild over the eastern United States. By the time these large, sweet foreigners arrived, in the mid-1800s, they were already well bred. More than two thousand varieties had been cultivated in China and perhaps hundreds more had been developed in Japan. For many years ‘Hachiya’ was the most widely planted variety. ‘Fuyu’ is now much more common.

Persimmons aren’t fussy, just slow
Brilliant fall color
  Asian persimmon trees rate high as ornamentals. Brilliant fall color is their chief attraction, but they also have comely branch structure and interesting bark.

Sources for Asian persimmon trees

Edible Landscaping
361 Spirit Ridge Lane
Afton, VA 22920

Raintree Nursery
391 Butts Road
Morton, WA 98536

Stark Bro's Nursery
PO Box 10
Louisiana, MO 63353


Persimmons take several years to bear, but be patient—they’ll be with you a long time. If you’re intrigued with the fruit but feel daunted by the relative scarcity of recipes, fear not. The trees make good landscape specimens. The canopy casts excellent shade for summer napping, the leaves have bright fall colors, and the bark is craggy and exotic .

Asian persimmons are native to warm temperate and sub-tropical climates, but they can tolerate some cold weather and heavy soils, depending on the rootstock. ‘Fuyu’ and ‘Hachiya’ will thrive in Zone 7 and warmer. ‘Hachiya’ does especially well in California. ‘Tanenashi’ and ‘Eureka’ are astringents appropriate for Zone 8 and warmer. Some cultivars will produce fruit, although inconsistently, in colder climates. Among them are ‘Saijo’, an old astringent Japanese variety, and the non-astringents ‘Jiro’, ‘Yamagaki’, and ‘Ichi Ki Kei Jiro’, which are all hardy to Zone 6. Unless you live in California, choose a tree that’s been grafted onto the hardier American persimmon rootstock, Diospyros virginiana.

Persimmons tolerate a variety of soils, but like so many plants, they perform best in a deep, well-drained one. Plant your tree in full sun in a hole just big enough to spread out the roots. Roughen up the sides of the hole to encourage the roots to grow into the surrounding soil. (A smooth surface can keep roots circling round and round.) Backfill with unamended soil, tucking it up under the roots to avoid leaving any air pockets. Make sure the graft union is a few inches above soil level and that the soil is mounded, because considerable settling will occur when you water. I like to sprinkle a few handfuls of organic fertilizer on the soil around the trunk. Then spread a 4- to 6-inch-deep layer of mulch around the tree in an 18-inch radius, pulling the mulch a few inches away from the trunk to keep moisture from accumulating next to the bark. Water thoroughly.

I recommend doing a little pruning at planting time. If the tree is a young bare-root whip, cut it back by about a third, making a slanted cut just above a bud. If it’s more mature, with plenty of branches, do some thinning to begin establishing a strong framework of well-spaced limbs.

Newly planted trees of any kind are often slow to leaf  out. Because persimmons leaf out based on number of hours exposed to warmth rather than on exposure to chilling, they can be slower than most. In some areas, a newly planted persimmon may not break dormancy until late summer or fall. If you begin to worry that your tree is dead, nick the bark with a fingernail or knife. If you see green beneath the bark, the tree is just resting.

Ongoing care is no big deal
'Fuyu' bears large crops
  Although persimmons prefer about 40 inches of rain a year, this 'Fuyu' gets only half that but still bears large crops.
Continue to irrigate the persimmon regularly, especially during the early years, while the tree is getting established. For the biggest yields and best-quality fruit, persimmons need about 40 inches of water a year, although they can get by with less. Our 12-year-old ‘Fuyu’ is in a part of the garden that gets no water other than the 20 inches or so that fall during the winter, and it stays healthy and productive.

You can prune the tree to either a central leader or an open center configuration. Fruit forms in the axils of new growth that arises from 1-year-old wood. To encourage new growth, I prune lightly in winter while the tree is dormant, cutting back willowy growth and thinning out branches that are closer together than 6 inches. I keep on pruning throughout the rest of the year, shortening branches, and removing any crossing, inward-growing, or diseased branches. I try to encourage air circulation for disease control, and light penetration for increased fruitfulness.

The trees flower in spring. I’m always excited to see the ‘Hachiya’ set so many fruits. I dream about persimmon puddings (see recipe, facing page) and I rummage through my cupboards looking for the pudding mold. Alas, by midsummer most of the immature fruits have fallen to the ground, and I’m reaching for my rake. The ‘Fuyu’ seems to drop far fewer fruits. Since I dread the monotony of fruit-thinning, any tree that thins itself is welcome. I still have to remove the occasional ungainly fruit if it threatens to break a branch.

If you take care of your tree, water it, keep it mulched, fertilize it when annual shoot growth is less than 12 inches, and protect it from gophers and deer, in about five years you should get a good crop of persimmons. Here in northern California, they begin ripening with the first rains of fall, usually in mid-November. The ‘Fuyu’ persimmons are ready just before Thanksgiving, and the ‘Hachiya’ a couple of weeks later. Though not-quite-ripe Fuyus are edible and sweet when they’re amber-colored, they’re better when they turn solid orange and begin to soften. They stay firmly attached to the branch, so I harvest them with shears. Since Hachiyas aren’t ready until they feel as if they’re about to rot and the skin looks almost translucent, I hold them gently in one hand and clip them carefully from the branch by cutting just above the calyx. I stand them upside down, on the stem end, until I’m ready to use them. You can harvest Hachiyas underripe and let them soften, but the flavor is deeper if they ripen on the tree.

Mylar tinsel wards off birds   Pick persimmons with shears

Don't try to pull persimmons off the tree. Instead, cut the sturdy stems with pruning shears, as shown above.

At left, Mylar tinsel helps keep birds away from ripening 'Hachiya' fruits.
The trees are largely trouble-free. I’ve seen a few mealybugs on the fruits, but no damage. Birds are the most destructive pests. They eat the persimmons starting at the top so you can’t see the damage from ground level until it’s too late. I sometimes add Mylar tinsel to the trees to try festively to discourage the more timid birds. Deer seem to enjoy the lower leaves. People passing by seem to enjoy the lower fruits.

There’s a magical and melancholy moment at the end of persimmon season. The bright yellow leaves have fallen and are lying under the tree. The leaves reflect the light from the winter sky, illuminating the undersides of the branches. The misty air glows faintly, and the fruit hanging in the bare tree turns golden. It’s as though a piece of the sun falls to earth to help the garden put on the last show of the year.

Each type has its own best uses
The distinct qualities of the astringent ‘Hachiya’ and nonastringent ‘Fuyu’ persimmons require that they be used very differently in the kitchen. Peeled and sliced thinly crosswise, the crunchy ‘Fuyu’ fruits reveal a lovely star pattern. They’re wonderful in green, composed, and fruit salads (see my recipes for Salad of Bitter Greens and Persimmon and Persimmon and Fennel Salad). For a stunning and delicious fall salad, try combining them with bitter greens and a citrus-ginger vinaigrette. I find the flavor of a cooked ‘Fuyu’ to be almost too subtle, but it does add color and an interesting note to compotes, chutneys, and relishes. Bread pudding made with ‘Fuyu’ persimmons and golden raisins, and sprinkled with crystallized ginger is delicious.

'Fuyu'   'Hachiya'
Non-astringent persimmons like 'Fuyu' have crisp flesh that softens as the fruit gets riper. Eat them any time after they turn orange. They're great in salads or mixed fruit bowls.   'A fully ripe 'Hachiya has sweet, custardlike flesh. Cut off the top and spoon the fruit as though you were eating yogurt.
Many of our ‘Hachiya’ persimmons never make it to the kitchen. I cut off the top and eat the jellylike pulp with a spoon. The flavor is unique, somewhat like a mango or a peach, but always in the background is that distant astringency. Those that do reach the kitchen find their way into long-anticipated holiday puddings, cookies, and quick breads. I’ve even used them in pies and ice cream.

To preserve persimmons you can make jam (be sure the fruit is ripe), freeze the pulp, or slice and dry them. A firm, inedible ‘Hachiya’ becomes surprisingly sweet when dried. Use a dehydrator, or if you live in a dry climate, try the holiday decorating technique a gentleman once described to me: peel the fruit and hang them whole from strings inside the house until they’re dry. Just remember to duck!

posted in: fruit

Comments (27)

Ginny Zsc writes: This is the second year that I've had a good number of developing persimmons, which mysteriously disappear. What starts out looking like g generous yield ends up with less than a dozen ripe fruit. The branches are drooping one day and the next day most of the immature fruit is just plain gone. I'm not talking about the small fruit that the tree casts off. I have an Icky Japanese persimmon that is about 6 years old in a small fenced in back yard. There is no damage to the tree branches and the fruit that remain are mostly on the lower branches. We've had lots of rain this year and the tree looks happy, but I don't think there are more than a half dozen fruit left. I don't see squirrels, but I know there is a chipmunk. Will they steal unripe fruit??? I know that they plant sunflower seeds in the garden and steal crocus bulbs. I would appreciate any suggestions.
Posted: 5:44 pm on July 13th
hectorkim54 writes: Endclass
Posted: 2:04 am on November 1st
kerrystone65 writes: Tomato are looking Awesome
Posted: 2:04 am on October 26th
StellaClegg writes: awesome :)
Posted: 5:01 am on October 24th
rubenrush34 writes: Keep it up

Posted: 3:13 am on October 12th
rubenrush34 writes: Keep it up

Posted: 3:13 am on October 12th
helenwise writes: Superb
Posted: 5:10 am on October 6th
Valerieones writes: awesome thanks for share it
Posted: 3:54 am on September 21st
doriswhite writes: Great work
Posted: 1:29 am on September 20th
danfowler88 writes: Nice one
Posted: 12:22 am on August 3rd
daveabbott writes: looking yummy
Posted: 5:05 am on July 13th
dexterharris writes: its soo nice.
Posted: 12:11 am on March 10th
LaverneKones writes: procedural cultivating.
Posted: 2:43 am on February 12th
TracyPoren writes: Thanks fro sharing this lovely info!!!
Posted: 3:18 am on February 11th
ammyvirk writes: procedural farming.
Posted: 12:38 am on January 27th
youngrichard12 writes: Thank you for posting. It is a new harvest for me.
Posted: 5:14 pm on January 18th
CharlesAlaimo writes: very interesting
Posted: 7:48 am on December 2nd
howardjackson writes: I love this unique fruit.
Posted: 3:35 am on April 6th
davidramirez5 writes: Looks Yummy
Posted: 7:46 am on April 2nd
earlcollins writes: Amazing......
Posted: 8:30 am on March 31st
juanbell writes: Its Awesome
Posted: 2:35 am on March 28th
KelvinSam writes: Thanks for this acticle
Posted: 5:21 am on March 19th
southernskies writes: My Fuyu tree produced over 100 tiny fruit, but they all dropped when they were only about an inch in diameter...They received plenty of water and had no sign of insects...What happened?
Posted: 8:03 pm on March 9th
AndreiD writes: A very interesting article. I have a persimmon tree but it's November and the persimmons are not yet ripe. How much should I wait to eat those delicious fruits?
Posted: 10:06 am on November 4th
Rocksand writes: Thank you for the information. My biggest problem with my tree is persimmon thieves. They can't wait for them to ripen and steal them at all hours breaking branches. I am so tired of the thievery that I just pick them before they are ripe and don't really enjoy them anymore. The best Fuyu is a tree ripened Fuyu.
Posted: 5:54 pm on October 2nd
RickCBingham writes: Thank you for your well written and helpful article. I planted a Fuyu two years ago after purchasing and eating Fuyu Persimmons from our Costco store. What a wonderful late season treat. I was surprised last year to see the squarish white blossoms appear in late spring. The blossoms are beautiful and unique. However, I was not prepare to see so many of them drop off and not produce fruit. I only harvested two Fuyu's last fall. We live in northern Utah (Zone 7) and I feared that perhaps the tree had died during a rather harsh winter (I even wrapped this young tree), but this spring it finally budded out and is producing good growth. I'm hoping that the tree will continue to grow and eventually produce lots of fruit. I absolutely love this beautiful and unique fruit. Your article mentions that persimmons are slowing growing trees and that is helpful to know. I will try to be patient. Thank you once again for your informative article.
Posted: 3:51 am on May 26th
wguill writes: Good article. Clears up some confusion.
Posted: 6:21 pm on October 9th
Log in or create a free account to post a comment.