Going For It!

comments (4) October 18th, 2009

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January King Cabbage.
Cabbage Filderkraut. The real Saurkraut cabbage from Germany.
Couve Tronchuda blooming after tricking it with an early spring vernalization period in the old greenhouse.
Zopatec Tomatoes fixin to get eaten.

I don't want to eat. I don't want to take a bath. I don't want to go to town. I don't want to do anything but garden. Every time I'm out there, I get this hairbrained idea that this city lot can and will feed me and my sweetie pie. I have so much "stuff" packed in my back yard that I may have to start stacking stuff next. It's not junk mind you. Other people have junk in their yards. I have important gardening stuff. Rakes, hoes, shovels, cold frames, wood to make cold frames, windows from yard sales for the cold frames, rototiller, chipper-shredder, raised beds, chicken wire trellises, wood posts, metal posts, chiken wire nailed to every fence, potting table, tool shed, and my most prized possession, my greenhouse I built myself.

After years of playing with the "normal greenhouse," I decided it was time to tear them down, stop trying to heat and cool them, and just get it right this time. Did I get it right this time? Well, so far, things are looking pretty good. It'd been near freezing every night since I planted lettuce, kale, spinach and other assorted cool weather greens, and they are growing like wild fire. I guess we will see this winter when the world as we know it here in Idaho, once again freezes over.

As you can see from the pictures, The north, east, and west walls are 2x4 and insulated and plywood sheeted. The south glass wall is 4 each 36'' x 6'4", double pain windows I picked up at a huge yard sale. I got a whole pickup load of assorted windows like these, for $100.00 Bucks. The greenhouse is 8' by 12'.

The windows are attached with three hinges each. They will raise up in the summer.  I have yet to design a system that will hold them up and anchor them from wind. The two smaller top windows are set but floating. (Not fastened at the top or sides for settling) There is a small door on the east side that I built quite small. You have to crouch to get in. Less release of warm air I hope. The black strips are 1/8th inch thick rubber to seal off the window joints and the tops of the large window. It is air and water tight.

posted in: Greenhouse, Couve Tronchuda, Cabbage Filderkraut, January King Cabbage, Overwintering Greenhouse, Cold Weather Greenhouse

Comments (4)

lettucegrow writes: gwest77,
How are you? Yes, it is raining here this morning. Good for the fall garden!
So you have some windows already? You need to design your greenhouse around them. Figure the width and layout a 45 degree wall. Use 4'x4', (4 by 4's) as the "studs" to rest your windows on. Use 2"x6" as the top and bottom plates.
Figure the length of your window to the length of the 4"x4"s so the windows will lay even with the bottom plate and also lay over the top beam an inch or two.
(Need a really good saw to cut the 45 degree angles on the 4x4's A bigger Chop Saw would be nice, mine was too small so I used a Skill Worm Drive- two cuts)
I used 4"x6" pressure treated beams from Home Depot as a base, (foundation) Once I had it square and level, I dug footing holes under the corners and middle of each. I then attached metal anchors that go into the concrete. I then mixed the concrete and poured it into the holes.
I had 2 4x6 beams, 12 foot long. I built beam pockets to hold the first one in place and then set my window wall in place. I next framed another beam pocket for the second beam that holds the roof a couple feet from the back foundation.
Since you are building up against your shop, you could mount a 2x8 with lag bolts into the existing studs and use hangers.
I really had no blueprint when I started. I just said a prayer and told GOD I would nail it if he would just hold the other end. We worked quite well together, in my humble opinion.
Posted: 2:36 pm on October 19th
gwest77 writes: lettucegrow,
Just happened upon your article this morn. Most times I just read Fine Gardening but I signed up for Vegetable Gardener this morn. Bet it cold there this morning. I wanted to ask you about your green house, the width,length and height of it if you don't mind sharing.I have quite a few double pane windows that I was wanting to build something like you have against my small shop in my backyard not only to get a head start on spring vegies but grow certain ones all winter here in North Georgia were our winters are fairly mild. Besides using the greenhouse to grow in this winter it will also serve has a heater for my shop :-)
Posted: 7:56 am on October 19th
JadaE writes: WOW, what a beautiful greenhouse! I hope you are able to fill it to the ceiling with good stuff! Those tomatoes are beautful too!

I think you are right about the powers that be controlling the seed...I plan to save seeds next summer for the first time. I'm also a member of SeedSavers, which is fun!

Please post pictures this winter of your greenhouse/farmers market! :) Would love to hear what you are able to produce despite the cold outside....
Posted: 7:27 pm on October 18th
lettucegrow writes: Gardening is a really great thing. Fresh food.
Crispy carrots really get my motor running! Fresh cabbage makes me flip my lid man! And we all know the difference between garden tomatos and store bought tomatos. If not, your tasters are on vacation.
Yes, gardening is GREAT! But, if you don't save your own seed, you are only doing it half way.
Anyone can save tomato, pepper, bean and other easily aquired seed. But what about perennials? Cabbage, carrots, kale, beets, turnips and such? Takes two years to get these seeds. They need a vernalization period (COLD WEATHER) to produce seed the second year.
If it is too cold, many perennials will not survive the winter. We can use heavy mulch, cold frames, greenhouses and the like. That's a lot of work though. The pay off is worth it, in my opinion.
Now you can call me paranoid or just plain kookie but, I believe there is evil afoot. Mean, greedy, evil people that would love to sell you seed every year, rather than you grow your own seed and be self sufficient. They have targeted the larger farmers for that end. They have also targeted our Senators and Congress people with large "campaign donations," to get them in lock step with that agenda.
So what happens if all their evil dreams come true and they end up controlling all of the seed stock in the world?
That's easy to answer: Their dream is your nightmare.
Will it be GM strictly? I think so.
Up here in Idaho, it gets pretty chilly. I think I can bring most any vegetable thru the winter and harvest seed the next year. That is my goal. That is what I am doing here on this planet. My job is to foil the mean, evil, greedy multinational seed producers and become completely self sustaining with really good, clean, fresh food. Bags and bags of good, viable seed is my aim.
Folks in the south and south west really don't have to worry much. Everything will over winter down there. Up here, it is more of a challenge. I think it is a challenge worth taking on. It's worth taking on because afterall, mean, evil, greedy people are worried about you and your children and your nutrition and overall health. R-I-G-H-T-!
Posted: 4:38 am on October 18th
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